Jan Levine: Game 17: NYR 4 FLA 3, Uneven Performance in W, Kreider Suspension Looming? Rangers find way to get win, but Kreider hit topic of conversation

Always a good write up Jan.

That 4-0 game still hurts. Gotta wipe the floor with them Tuesday, can't wait.

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Holy poop I was thinking the same thing. But my thought was "Wow he hates Arniel this was a bad combo for sure"
- mrhattrick27

My thoughts about Brassard is like Jan says in the blog here, he is ill suited to the 3rd line, but, he isn't better than the top 6 guys right now, that's just the fact

Last year he was one of the few bright spots if the Rangers got a 5 on 3, now they look great on them and he isn't part of it

Always a good write up Jan.

That 4-0 game still hurts. Gotta wipe the floor with them Tuesday, can't wait.
- NYRangers1124

Thanks much appreciated. I agree, time for a bit of payback on the scoreboard

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My thoughts about Brassard is like Jan says in the blog here, he is ill suited to the 3rd line, but, he isn't better than the top 6 guys right now, that's just the fact

Last year he was one of the few bright spots if the Rangers got a 5 on 3, now they look great on them and he isn't part of it
- jimbro83

But as said when/if Nash returns, you can make the third line another scoring one that can also check, which will help Brassard and the team. Because now you have a bottom six combination that can take scoring pressure off the top six

But as said when/if Nash returns, you can make the third line another scoring one that can also check, which will help Brassard
- airjan23

it's gonna be interesting when Nash comes back that's for sure

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My thoughts about Brassard is like Jan says in the blog here, he is ill suited to the 3rd line, but, he isn't better than the top 6 guys right now, that's just the fact

Last year he was one of the few bright spots if the Rangers got a 5 on 3, now they look great on them and he isn't part of it
- jimbro83

Brassard's qualifying offer alone next summer would be $3.7 million. It is going to be interesting to see what they do with him. If they intend to keep Richards, I think Brassard is definite trade bait. But, if they don't intend to keep Richards, they need to be careful about including Brassard in any deal.

On the Kreider hit, the only problem with it was where Upshall was in relation to the boards and of course the fact that Kreider is so big and strong. Honestly, it looked like he went up with the intention of giving him a little shove, the type you see in every scrum between players. But with Upshall's momentum carrying him toward his bench and then Kreider's size and strength adding to the force it threw Upshall back easily. With Upshall so close to the boards it was dangerous. But the intent wasn't there at all.

Kreider simply made a bad decision given the time of the game and Upshall's position. He apparently doesn't realize how strong he is. We all saw how easily he pushed Upshall off the puck in the first period on Miller's goal. When he is engaged he is a bull.

On the Kreider hit, the only problem with it was where Upshall was in relation to the boards and of course the fact that Kreider is so big and strong. Honestly, it looked like he went up with the intention of giving him a little shove, the type you see in every scrum between players. But with Upshall's momentum carrying him toward his bench and then Kreider's size and strength adding to the force it threw Upshall back easily. With Upshall so close to the boards it was dangerous. But the intent wasn't there at all.

Kreider simply made a bad decision given the time of the game and Upshall's position. He apparently doesn't realize how strong he is. We all saw how easily he pushed Upshall off the puck in the first period on Miller's goal. When he is engaged he is a bull.
- gkmkiller

it wasn't a head shot, it wasn't a hit from behind. It was a penalty, that's it.

Man up, Upshall

Always a good write up Jan.

That 4-0 game still hurts. Gotta wipe the floor with them Tuesday, can't wait.
- NYRangers1124

Should be a great game as both teams have shed their poor starts!

it wasn't a head shot, it wasn't a hit from behind. It was a penalty, that's it.

Man up, Upshall
- jimbro83

The problem is that penalties are now beginning to be called when a player is hit from the side if he is within about three feet of the boards. They are trying so hard to crack down on the "dangerous" hits that now it is boarding to hit a guy on the side if it is close to the boards. Used to be that it needed to be from behind and the rule of thumb was that if you can see the numbers then don't hit him.

The problem is that penalties are now beginning to be called when a player is hit from the side if he is within about three feet of the boards. They are trying so hard to crack down on the "dangerous" hits that now it is boarding to hit a guy on the side if it is close to the boards. Used to be that it needed to be from behind and the rule of thumb was that if you can see the numbers then don't hit him.
- gkmkiller

here it is again

here it is again


- jimbro83

Apparently, he is not going to get suspended for it.

Apparently, he is not going to get suspended for it.
- Pete V

freaking rules, i could watch it all day

here it is again


- jimbro83

Giannone was right there where that happened. I liked the tenacity there, the timing was bad, but the penalty was killed, its over. Like I said last night though, Florida will remember that, Kreider will be a target next game between the two teams. Good thing is, its obvious now Chris can take care of himself.

here it is again


- jimbro83

It almost looks like the dumb sh!t actually tries to embellish the hit and pay for his stupidity by introducing his own head with the boards.

Suspension for that? Krieder was gliding the whole way and simply nudged the guy.

it wasn't a head shot, it wasn't a hit from behind. It was a penalty, that's it.

Man up, Upshall
- jimbro83

No, but it was a shove on someone to his blindside away from the puck, a few feet from the boards. Not saying he deserves a suspension, because he doesn't, but to imply that people can't get injured on a play like that or it wasn't reckless/dangerous and simply a penalty on a hockey play isn't correct either.

It almost looks like the dumb sh!t actually tries to embellish the hit and pay for his stupidity by introducing his own head with the boards.

Suspension for that? Krieder was gliding the whole way and simply nudged the guy.
- mames11

I'm not sure if you play hockey or not, but Krieder had more than enough momentum to knock down a smaller guy who was gliding backwards slowly when he wasn't prepared to get bumped.

With that said, Upshall probably embellished it a little bit..like every single hockey player does.

Apparently, he is not going to get suspended for it.
- Pete V

I know I'll probably come off like a typical Islander fan but how can Grabner get two games for that hit on Gerbe and Kreider gets nothing for this? It is a blatant after whistle intent to injure. He side swiped him into the boards. I'm not saying this because of any Isles/Ranger BS it just makes zero sense?

It almost looks like the dumb sh!t actually tries to embellish the hit and pay for his stupidity by introducing his own head with the boards.

Suspension for that? Krieder was gliding the whole way and simply nudged the guy.
- mames11

wow

It almost looks like the dumb sh!t actually tries to embellish the hit and pay for his stupidity by introducing his own head with the boards.

Suspension for that? Krieder was gliding the whole way and simply nudged the guy.
- mames11

Reminded me when Graves destroyed someone on the Caps who was goading & roughing up Leetch all game many moons ago, Graves saw an opportunity & pummeled the poor guy.

This was not as bad but great to see the togetherness building with this team.

I know I'll probably come off like a typical Islander fan but how can Grabner get two games for that hit on Gerbe and Kreider gets nothing for this? It is a blatant after whistle intent to injure. He side swiped him into the boards. I'm not saying this because of any Isles/Ranger BS it just makes zero sense?
- Cptmjl

I'm not sure if you play hockey or not, but Krieder had more than enough momentum to knock down a smaller guy who was gliding backwards slowly when he wasn't prepared to get bumped.

With that said, Upshall probably embellished it a little bit..like every single hockey player does.
- Blackstrom2

I do play and take another look. Krieder never stopped after contact; meaning it was a shove and not full body contact.

freaking rules, i could watch it all day
- jimbro83

I'm not denying that

- B2B76

Oh stop, that wasn't the idea of that post. If that was Kreider on the receiving end you guys would all be calling for the head of whoever did it